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    Parents of Tech Student want President Fired

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    Parents Demand Firing of Virginia Tech President, Police Chief Over Poor Handling of Mass Shooting

    John and Jennifer Shourds of Lovettsville, Va. demanded the immediate firings of University President Charles Steger and Virginia Tech Campus Police Chief W.R. Flinchum who he said "screwed up" the handling of separate shooting incidents that left 33 students dead, including the shooter.

    "My God, if someone shoots somebody there should be an immediate lockdown of the campus,"? said John Shourds. "They totally blew it. The president blew it, campus police blew it."?

    The Shourds said they received a phone call from their daughter, Alexandra, a freshman at the college in Blacksburg, who was unsure of how to handle a vague university e-mail received around 9:20 a.m. regarding the first shooting incident that happened at the West Ambler Johnston Hall around 7:15 a.m. Later, it was learned that a lone gunman entered that hall, two buildings away from Alexandra's dorm, and opened fire, killing two people.
    Shourds said the e-mail left no detailed information of how the students should proceed and didn't call for a campus lockdown. There were no public safety announcements or warnings before the second shooting at Norris Hall that killed 30 people.

    John Shourd said he told his daughter to stay put and avoid her 10 a.m. class until the university sent more information.

    At about 9:50 a.m., Alexandra Shourds told her father a subsequent e-mail was sent to students instructed them to stay put and not go anywhere. An e-mail announcing the cancellation of classes for the day didn't come until 10:16 a.m., said John Shourds.

    He said many lives could have been saved had the school locked down the campus immediately after the first shooting.

    "A lockdown may have not have stopped the killing but it could have lessened the tragedy,"? said Shourds.

    At a press conference, Steger said authorities believed that the shooting at the dorm was a domestic dispute and mistakenly thought the gunman had fled the campus and defended the university's handling of the tragedy.

    "We had no reason to suspect any other incident was going to occur," Steger said. "We can only make decisions based on the information you had on the time. You don't have hours to reflect on it."

    Shourds said he believes the school delayed the call to lock down the school because there was only approximately two weeks left until the end of the semester.

    John Shourds was at Washington, D.C.'s Dulles airport dropping another daughter off for her flight back to college at Michigan State University when he got the first call from Alexandra.

    Since that call, Shourds said he and his family have felt anger, fear and indignation over the day's events. The Shourds have been trying to contact their daughter as much as possible and John Shourds said they would have been on their way to see Alexandra had they had any success in booking hotels in the Blacksburg area.

    He said no apology or excuse will meet his satisfaction without the ouster of the university's top officials. He wasn't pleased with the Steger's comments after the incident, either.

    "I hold this president completely accountable,"? said Shourds. "They are cowards. They can't come out and say they made a mistake."?

    Shourds said he is second-guessing his decision to push his daughter towards Virginia Tech, where several of his nieces and nephews have attended. Many of those relatives have called to offer support to the family and Shourds said many are equally displeased with the university's initial response.

    He said he initially expected the university to respond as it did to an incident last August, during Alexandra's first day of class, where the campus was locked down due to a manhunt over an escaped inmate who allegedly killed a hospital guard and a sheriff's deputy.

    His daughter told him she received an e-mail warning while in class of a lockdown of all academic buildings that day. Each Virginia Tech student carries a laptop.

    "There are also loudspeaker systems attached to poles along the campus,"? said Shourds. "The warning system worked."?

    However, John Shourds said he had doubts about the effectiveness of Virginia Tech's campus police from the start. He called the force, "an Andy Griffith and Barney Fife"? operation.

    "They are really small police force for 20,000 students and they are not the best and the brightest,"? said Shourds.

    He said he's leaning towards keeping his daughter at the school after this semester due to positive feedback about the school's academic program and a learning abroad trip to Spain this summer. He said he trusts the school will do the right thing in his opinion and fire Steger and Flinchum immediately.





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    Re: Parents of Tech Student want President Fired

    One thing to consider is that no college has had to deal with this before. It's easy to sit back, throw stones and say this is how they should have done, etc.

    There are going to be deaths in colleges and/or college communities. And with a college as big as Va. Tech, shutting down things isn't quite as easy as closing the campus at MECC.

    People are complaining about how they handled it, but I think most of us can say with pretty much absolute conviction, that if they had shut down the entire college, and there had been nothing else, we would have people complaining about putting fear into everybody over an isolated domestic incident.

    What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it.

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    Re: Parents of Tech Student want President Fired

    Exactly and Im sure that the students and families and friends of the victims need more problems on their plate right now, these people's daughter wasn't even a victim, this is just selfish.

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    Re: Parents of Tech Student want President Fired

    They should be just thankful she's alive and unharmed.

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    Re: Parents of Tech Student want President Fired

    Guys I agree with them, there was 2 hours between the first shootings and the second, something more should have been done.
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    Re: Parents of Tech Student want President Fired

    According to a report I saw earlier, authorities had detained a man just off campus shortly after the dorm shootings and were questioning him when the shootings at the lecture hall took place. It is conceivable that they thought they had the person responsible for the dorm shootings and just had the wrong guy. Until all of this plays out cooler heads need to prevail. A rush to judgement would be the worst thing that could happen right now. I know this is a tragedy but no other college has had to deal with this type of thing for a long long time. The folks in charge there aren't fortune tellers. They can't see the future. It is sad that this has happened and hindsight is 20-20. But, given the facts they had at the time, maybe they felt they were making the right decision.
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